A REPLY - Juneteenth?? Should We celebrate ? Should we dismiss ?

From: Ronald Myers <juneteenthdoc@yahoo.com>
To: KIMOTHEP@aol.com
Cc: soa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 8, 2011 7:00 PM
Subject: [SOA~2012] REPLY - REPLY - Re: Juneteenth??

 

Kwasi:

 

It is rather obvious that you are dead set on attacking me as the leader of the "Modern Juneteenth Movement" in America for whatever reasons. I can see that you are very familiar with the "Willie Lynch Syndrome" and put to pratice many of its' principles in your attacks against me.  

 

Despite your attacks, the invitation still stands.

 

"DOC"

Rev. Ronald V. Myers, Sr., M.D.

Founder & Chairman

National Juneteeenth Holiday Campaign

National Juneteenth Observance Foundation (NJOF)

National Juneteenth Christian Leadership Council (NJCLC)

National Association of Juneteenth Jazz Presenters (NAJJP)

www.NationalJuneteenth.com

662-247-3364

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From: "KIMOTHEP@aol.com" <KIMOTHEP@aol.com>
To: nationaljuneteenth@yahoo.com
Sent: Thu, July 7, 2011 4:06:05 PM
Subject: Re: REPLY - Re: Juneteenth??

 Thanks for the invite, but "no thanks." As Dr. King declined to join the Freedom Riders for safety reasons, so I also value my safety.  In parting, I leave you with the words of

Dr. John Henrik Clarke, who said that with an accurate knowledge of our own history,

"we can change the world, if first we change ourselves."

 

Hotep (peace)

 

In a message dated 7/7/2011 1:58:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, nationaljuneteenth@yahoo.com writes:

Kwasi:

 

Our group is about celebrating our freedom on the "19th of June", Juneteenth Independence Day,  and establishing as a National Holiday Observance in America.

 

We welcome you to communicate whatever you wish concerning our ancestors who took up arms to fight for freedom.

 

We welcome you to tell your story at any of our Juneteenth gatherings and before any of our Juneteenth groups.

 

So, you can make your statement "so why don't you and your group stop playing semantical word games and speak the truth that our ancestors freedom was gained in large part, due to the heroic efforts of our ancestors who took up arms and fought in the Union Army against the southern states."

 

"DOC"

From: "KIMOTHEP@aol.com" <KIMOTHEP@aol.com>
To: nationaljuneteenth@yahoo.com
Sent: Thu, July 7, 2011 11:47:03 AM
Subject: Re: Juneteenth??

Sir, that "news of freedom." was predicated on Lincoln's proclamation and you know it, so why don't you and your group stop playing semantical word games and speak the truth that our ancestors freedom was gained in large part, due to the heroic efforts of our ancestors who took up arms and fought in the Union Army against the southern states.

 

Kwasi

 

In a message dated 7/7/2011 11:48:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, nationaljuneteenth@yahoo.com writes:

Brother Kwasi:

 

Thanks for your e-mail. I never said "our enslaved Ancestors were freed by Lincoln's proclamation, in general, and by Gen. Granger's order in Texas on June 19, 1865."

 

I said that "we all come together to celebrate our freedom on the announcement made on the "19th of June", 1865, joining our ancestors in the last state where slavery was allowed in celebration of the news of freedom." 

 

It wasn't until the 13th Amemndment, on December 18, 1865, was passed did enslavement officially end in the country. 

 

"DOC"

From: "KIMOTHEP@aol.com" <KIMOTHEP@aol.com>
To: nationaljuneteenth@yahoo.com
Sent: Fri, June 17, 2011 8:34:16 AM
Subject: Juneteenth??

Hotep (peace)

 

With all due respects, your premise that our enslaved Ancestors were freed by Lincoln's proclamation, in general, and by Gen. Granger's order in Texas on June 19, 1865, is based on false historical grounds.  Enslaved Afrikans were not legally freed until

December 6, 1865 when the 13th Amendment was ratified by the several states!

 

Further, Lincoln's proclamation, did not, and could not legally free anyone, by it's own terms. (see: Lerone Bennett, Jr., "Forced Into Glory: Abraham Lincoln's White Dream). A proclamation is only an official announcement, usuall by a governmental entity (Blacks Law, 6th Ed), and DOES NOT have any legal effect, nor legal forec or legal effect as law.  Lincoln's proclamation could not have any legal effect also becuse it was only directed at the states that were then in rebellion which had their own government!  In areas such as Norfolk and Portsmouth, VA which were then under Union control, and where Lincoln could have feed our Ancestors, he chose not to do so and his proclamation specifically exempted those cities and other localities from its coverage as stated in the proclamation.

 

In fact, it was through the heroic efforts of our Ancestors who took up arms in the Union Army and fought against the south, that freedom was actually won.  See my attached essay, "Juneteenth Is Mis-guided!" for more documentation on these points.

 

Kwasi Imhotep, MS

Ancestral Path

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